Ok, I know I will hear from you all about this but, if you must purchase a dead tree that will shed needles from November to January and it costs $45 and it takes you 3 hours to put the lights on it and it drips sap and you have to water it everyday... wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to buy a nice 9' tree with the lights (1300!) already on it? We got this one used (once!) off Craigslist.com for $100. Totally a steal! And it's huge- it came in 2 very large boxes! Dabney asks to see it everyday. We may cheat and put it up on Monday- Tim wants it up as much as Dabney!